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Phil
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« on: March 12, 2013, 08:03:22 PM »

I have for some while attempted to compile a national database of UK trawler owner funnel markings.
Ramsgate although not a major fishing port never the less has a trawling history.
Ramsgate features badly on the database so I am inquiring if anyone knows of any recorded archive material of these funnel markings or indeed of any person who may have knowledge that they would pass on for me to record.

Below are couple of drawn funnels for Ramsgate from the collection and also a b/w photograph that shows some of the Ramsgate trawler fleet in the early years of the last century.

Posted on behalf of Bill Blow. If you can help, please leave a message and I'll pass details on to Bill.

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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2016, 07:27:58 AM »

Hi Phil,

Could you please pass this request for help, onto Bill?

I am looking to identify the trawler company which used the funnel marking shown in the two photos below, also the colours used on the markings.

The photo must have been taken between 1922 and 1940 when the trawler sunk. The photos were taken at Ramsgate when the trawler was in for repairs, which were carried out by Claxton & Co. Ltd.

The funnel is from the trawler H963 Iago.
Built 1907

Known to be owned by:
Ellis Steam Trawling Co., Ltd.
1940 ~ 1940
Torbay Trawlers Ltd.
1936 ~ 1940
Ocean Steam Fishing Co. Ltd.
1928 ~ 1936
Iago Steam Trawling Co. Ltd. (E. D. W. Lawford)
1920 ~ 1928
Great Northern Steam Fishing Co. - Curzon Charles
1918 ~ 1920
British Royal Navy - Admiralty - RN
HMT Iago (FY1364)
1915 ~ 1919
Hull Northern Fishing Co. Ltd. - Hellyer Bros Ltd. - Hellyer Steam Fishing Co. Ltd.
1907 ~ 1915

(before the photos were taken)



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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 08:51:38 AM »



          

Paramount R193. Seen here after washing against the East Pier in a storm 2.1.1928.
Several trawlers running for shelter that night made the safety of Ramsgate Harbour but engine trouble stopped the Paramount succeeding.
5 of the crew were saved by the lifeboat Prudential in terrible conditions in the dark.
3 men were hauled from the trawlers mast onto the harbour wall.
The engineer had been severly scalded by steam.
One man, Harry Offen, lost his life when he was crushed between the pier and his trawler.
His body was washed up on the Main Sands the next morning.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 09:22:04 AM »

          

Uberty R219. Steam trawler built 1912... 91.6grt... fished from Ramsgate 21.6.1920 to 15.10.1921.
Sold to Milford Haven.
Requisitioned in WW2 and bombed and sunk by Junkers 88 off Lowestoft, 8.5.1944.
There were no survivors.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2016, 09:40:31 AM »

         

Mary Evelyn R333...Built 1912...90grt..sold to William Ballard Ramsgate, 19.3.1920...Registered Ramsgate 6.1920.
Sailed Ramsgate for Milford via Bristol Channel ( Skipper Daniel George Mynheer Jnr).
Trawling in thick fog 9.7.1932 was run down by Glasgow steamer Skerries.
5 crew were saved including the skipper.
Daniel was lassoed by the Mate of the ship and hauled on to his ship.
4 men went missing.
Survivors...D Mynheer, Thomas Knight, C Rice, Bert Osborne, Samuel Pullman.
Missing...William Marshall, Robert Osborne, Fredrick Holness, Richard Kennett.


(Fleetwood Motor Trawlers)
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2016, 11:18:11 AM »



The Loyal Star R246...built 1913 at Great yarmouth..Requisitioned WW1 as a patrol boat...sold to Ramsgate 1.6.1920.
Reregistered in Milford 8.6.1945.
Through hard times the vessel was sold for scrap 23.11.1953.


Boy Nat R116...Registered Ramsgate Jan 1920..turned over whilst coaling 19.1.1924.
Vessel raised and returned to Lowestoft.

Ocean Pride R 243...Ramsgate registered June 1920..sold to Nairn 1926.
Lost on the west coast 12.1.1928.

Olivae R212..Built 1915...Registered Ramsgate 26.2.1920.. requisitioned 27.11.1939 as mine sweeper in WW2.
Ipswich based.  Scrapped 19.4.1956.

Queen R142...Built 1906..steel steam...84ftx18ftx8ft..owner Henry Goodbourne, Kent Trawlers, 22 Military Road, Ramsgate..
sold Banff 1926..off register 1937
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2016, 08:16:32 AM »



Smack Thyme R4 leaving the Inner Harbour.
Sailing vessel Thyme 145774,built of wood in  Lowestoft, 1921, measured 61 feet.
In 1933 the vessel is registered having a 50 bhp engine fitted.
This photo taken late 40's early 50's.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2016, 09:53:30 AM »

The fishing smack Reward 121361 was built by the boatyard Beeching, Moses & Co in 1905.
This was situated where the boat park is now, near the Ramsgate ferry terminal.
The owner of the ketch was Charles Spratt, 44 Addington Street, Ramsgate.
The 60.7 foot, 24.66ton grt., vessel fished from Ramsgate up until 1915 when she was sold.
Other ports the fishing smack fished then were Rye, Brixham and Lowestoft with up to 8 new owners.
In 1936 she was de-registered and in 1937, purchased by a yachtsman and converted to a pleasure yacht.
The new owner Sub Lieutenant Phillip Gick sailed her from Fareham, Hampshire and taught cadets how to sail.
While Gick left to fight in WW2 the Reward was left on a mooring in Salternís Creek, Fareham.
On returning home after the war he found that locals had demolished Reward for firewood.  Reward was too far gone to salvage.
In 2008 Sue Edden, daughter of now Rear Admiral Gick, organised an investigation on the wreck that showed through the mud in Salternís Creek.
She found that the Brixham Trawler design was used in many boatyards with slight differences showing them apart.
The double frames in the Ramsgate built ones verified that the wreck matched the Reward.


The Reward sailing in 1920 with Lowestoft registry and the remains of the vessel in Saltern's Creek shown below.







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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2016, 09:04:49 PM »

Further to my request for help in identifying the trawler company which owned the H963 Iago. Bill Blow has kindly helped me identified them as Ocean Steam Fishing Co. Ltd.
And the colours are as follows.
http://claxtonhistory.co.uk/iago-h963.html


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